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Post by drrafe on Jan 20, 2013 23:35:28 GMT -5
I was thinking it would be cool if the money you made as a pilot had some sort of purpose. That way you will really gear towards pay increases. Perhaps leveling up cabin and crews would be a cool way to do it...For example, say 200 dollars would upgrade you from a normal economy cabin to economy with first class, adding bonuses like faster service, and increasing pax demands, with additional upgrades after that. Or you could pay some amount to add flight attendants, or upgrade your F/O to one that is even more competent than the current one...Just some quick thoughts on it, but to sum up, any purpose for the money I feel would help complete this addon. Let me know what you guys think.
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Post by dlarrok on Jan 21, 2013 8:56:05 GMT -5
I don't really like this idea. FSC is an airline captain simulator, it simulates the role of you as the pilot in command. It's not an airline management sim.
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Post by Travis on Jan 21, 2013 11:06:25 GMT -5
There have been concepts in discussion for "an airline management" program that FSCaptain would be the driving client for. Until then, I'm not sure what value the money in FSCaptain could imply - except how well one's done in one's own standalone universe. I mean 20000 "Trav Dollars" wouldn't buy any of us a cup o' joe IRL. Although I must admit to a sudden taking to of the idea that we could use our virtual bounties to "bribe pax to not complain about something awful that we did." ;D
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Post by drrafe on Jan 21, 2013 11:16:53 GMT -5
Ah yes this is already implemented in the appeals section...As far as not wanting this to become an airline management sim, I have to differ in opinion...You are creating airlines, setting service, modifying schedules, etc. etc. You are managing an airline my friend. Besides, who cares how the software is categorized, as long as we all enjoy it...If they add a feature like this, and you don't like it, you could probably just avoid using it.
In addition, I think I made it clear that those were just ideas, and that my main point was to give the money some sort of value, even if like Travis said, we just use it to bribe first class pax:) The point is, the money has no meaning.
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Post by dlarrok on Jan 21, 2013 13:11:47 GMT -5
Drrafe, my understanding is that FSC is about flying realistically, as a pilot. Not managing the cabin class or customer satisfaction(aside from flying related aspects), and thats the way I like it.
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Post by drrafe on Jan 21, 2013 15:02:12 GMT -5
You are avoiding the point I am making. You ARE dealing with customer/passenger satisfaction using FSCaptain. Whenever you press the prohibit service or designate a meal plan. There already is an aspect of what you are talking about in this program. When you are judged in the end because a second meal was accidentally started by your staff because you as a realistic pilot forgot to tell them not to serve 2 dinners on a two hour flight, you are dealing with customer service in the cabin. If you already avoid it to make FSC feel more "realistic", than that's great. (I'm sure you don't though). But if you ever set cabin service to a number when setting up your flight, or if you have ever hit the Prohibit or Start Service button, then everything you have said in this post is unwarranted, and makes you look like a troll.
I like the realistic part of FSC too, which is why I purchased, but you seem to be trying to distinguish this as JUST A PILOT SIM. It is not, thanks to creating airlines and cabin service. I think that these things alone make it a Pilot/Airline Management Sim, therefore muting everying you've said. The fact of the matter is, that the devs included this to keep the program from being too dry, which would have probably prevented my purchase, among many others. It does not make it any more or less of a pilot sim.
No disrespect, but you haven't acknowledged any point I've made as valid or not. If you just want to blindly spout that opinion without engaging in a two sided conversation, then frankly you should go ahead and keep your opinion to yourself.
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Post by dlarrok on Jan 21, 2013 18:05:40 GMT -5
FSC isn't an airline management sim. It's a pilot sim. In real life, pilots do manage the start and end of cabin service. They don't spend money for faster service, or upgraded first class cabins.
Now, if you're talking about the idea of a separate piece of software that was an airline management sim and could interact with FSC, I probably wouldn't use it, but it's a good idea.
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Post by drrafe on Jan 21, 2013 20:35:00 GMT -5
Cool so we are in agreement...An extra tab of sorts in the administrator, that when checked active would enable a game mode like this...I suppose thats what I meant earlier when I said that "if they add a feature like this, and you don't like it, you could probably just avoid using it... further, on the lines of things a captain does, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they do not set their own schedules. That would be their employer, the airline, which is simulated in the schedules dialogue of the Airline Characteristics. This piece of software is called "the administrator."
If we could perhaps talk about ways to implement this without affecting you that would get us close to back on track for what this thread is supposed to be about. Otherwise, your OPINION on administrator is off topic, and stated repeatedly is the equivalent of trolling...Start your own thread.
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Post by yankeegolf on Jan 30, 2013 12:01:29 GMT -5
But I do get real money on my bank account from Dutch I did not know I was the only one
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Post by Moostafa on Apr 15, 2013 5:05:37 GMT -5
There have been concepts in discussion for "an airline management" program that FSCaptain would be the driving client for. I was just wondering if there have been any more discussions or progress made moving this idea forward. I know I would love to see something like.
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Post by Aviator992 on Apr 15, 2013 14:26:34 GMT -5
What dlarrok said. Its a pilot simulator. Pilots don't pay their money to the airline to get more flight attendants. Not a fan of this idea either.
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Post by Moostafa on Apr 15, 2013 16:05:20 GMT -5
What dlarrok said. Its a pilot simulator. Pilots don't pay their money to the airline to get more flight attendants. Not a fan of this idea either. The "airline management" program would be a separate program from FSC but used in conjunction with FSC as stated by Travis.
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Post by petrsurf on Apr 17, 2013 2:03:46 GMT -5
Hi, well I think there are others enhancement like Air haulers and fspax something like that , used to fly both chasing money etc. not much about flying ( quantity rather then quality ) I prefer dutch use his valuable time for more enhancing his brilliant idea as for captain's duty rather then management . Thanks Petr
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Post by Moostafa on Apr 17, 2013 8:55:25 GMT -5
Hi, well I think there are others enhancement like Air haulers and fspax something like that , used to fly both chasing money etc. not much about flying ( quantity rather then quality ) I prefer dutch use his valuable time for more enhancing his brilliant idea as for captain's duty rather then management . Thanks Petr Air hauler is for cargo aircraft and fspax is not even close to what we are talking about but thanks for you input. Might I suggest looking beyond the tittle of this thread as the airline management program we are talking about would have so much more to offer than then just how you might spend your earned money as a pilot. Also as per the post by Travis it would be used in conjunction with FSC so yes it would have flying quality as you say incorporated into it also.
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Post by Aviator992 on Apr 17, 2013 18:48:22 GMT -5
This is straight from the FSCaptain product page on Simmarket - "One final example. In the real world, presidents and CEOs of airlines are not working pilots. They don't have the time if they are doing their jobs as executives. FSCaptain focuses on tracking the career of an airline pilot, not an airline CEO or CFO. In FSCaptain you do not buy and sell airplanes or manage your company's maintenance operation, nor set prices for tickets or cabin service items. The financial health of the company you work for is not your concern -- you are there to do your job: delivering your payload (passengers or cargo or both) on-time and safely to your destination with consummate professionalism. That's a difficult enough job."
I'm no trying to be rude or anything, but this is the complete opposite of what FSCaptain was made for. If its standalone and a separate program, then sure, thats another thing. I know that was stated earlier, but i'm just wanting to make sure it will stay that way. But putting this into FSCaptain I think is a waste and goes against what it was designed for.
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