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Post by afy46 on Jan 21, 2011 20:34:21 GMT -5
Is there a way to decrease the service interval for each passenger? I barely got 159 passengers served on a Flight from KSLC to PAJN, which was just about 3 hours into a 98 knot headwind. Perhaps there could be a way to set that timing much like the loading interval for short flights, or make it porportional to the number of FA's we choose for each aircraft. This could exist and I missed it somewhere in the manuals.  |
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Post by Dutch Owen on Jan 21, 2011 23:38:04 GMT -5
Done. I decreased in the Beta for 1.2 and again for the BETA6 to appear shortly. It is already proportional to the number of FAs versus the number of PAX. The lower the ratio the faster the service.
I was having problems getting service done too.
Dutch
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Post by Travis on Jan 22, 2011 0:54:49 GMT -5
Ahhhh, I was looking up the variables and settings involved....
One thing on my mind though, I made a long flight earlier this week and had time for two services... so why not, I thought. The second service seemed to go so slooowly as compared with the first. Was that my imagination or were the crew not at spry the second time around??
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Post by Dutch Owen on Jan 22, 2011 10:23:41 GMT -5
Not sure. There's nothing deliberate about the 2nd being slower. They should be roughly the same. Of course there's a certain randomness involved in any service timing. Each individual requires, as of beta 6, a minimum of 20 seconds with a random addition of up to 10 more. Divide the number of PAX by the number of FAs, then multiply that by 20 and add a couple of minutes startup time to get the absolute minimum time to complete a snack service. A meal service will take 30 to 40 percent longer. Unless specifically defined as a meal by a schedule, all services are snack-type services.
189 PAX on a flight with 3 FAs: 189 / 3 * 20 = 1260 seconds or 21 minutes minimum; 189/3 * 30 = 1980 seconds or 31.5 minutes. Plus about 2 minutes to get the carts out and set up so a total of 23 minutes minimum, 33.5 maximum. The actual will fall between those two.
Dutch
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Post by Travis on Jan 26, 2011 0:53:38 GMT -5
It could have been randomness mixed with perception too. I realized that I was going to cut the end of service close to my TOD, so I was watching the Happy Passenger counter tick upwards.  Unless specifically defined as a meal by a schedule, all services are snack-type services. Hmmm, London to Sydney with nothing but peanuts and pop. I smell a utility function coming on....  |
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Post by davidk on Jan 26, 2011 15:01:26 GMT -5
I smell peanuts roasting over an open fire... no, make that a faulty microwave.
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Post by davidk on Jan 31, 2011 0:50:36 GMT -5
...I'm using BETA 6 and have noticed the pax service is slow and almost always incomplete by the time the aircraft is too low for it to continue. This seems to occur regardless of the flight duration (e.g. only around two-thirds pax served on a two-hour flight).
Is it increasing the simulation speed that makes the difference..?
David
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Post by afy46 on Feb 9, 2011 12:27:33 GMT -5
Interesting. Still using FS9 and latest Version 1.1.6 When I started this thread, my only ACME aircraft was an add-on B737-800, which I fly a lot. The PAX service time averages are are between a minute to over a minute and a half per passenger.. I assume this is a full meal, however it doesn't seem to matter how long or short the flight. At this rate it takes about 3 hours to service 150 PAX... totally unaceptable. Yesterday, I added and qualified in the default B737-400. After flying a couple flight plans, I've noticed, on a longer flight (KSEA-KBIL) that the passenger service seemed like it should be. That is, the PAX service averaged about one every 20 secounds which is 30/10 minutes. OK this is much better. The FA's can serve at a rate of 180/hour at this speed. On a shorter flight, (KBIL-KTEX) the passenger service times was shorter. It was more like every 10 or so sec. or 5-6/minute. I'm assuming these are snacks rather than a full meal. This is also great times. My point is this. I now know it has to do with the the load map set up in the 737-800 add-on. For one thing, when I loaded it I chose the B738 and the name came up as FSX Boing 737-800. When I go to the Maps folder, I have listed a B737_800, a B737_800w and a B738 even though I only have one B737-800 add-on in FS9. BTW I'm not running FSX on this computer at this time. I'm not sure which one these 737's listed are the one that the FCOM is looking at when auto loading. The service times don't don't matter much in the other Airline Cmpany where I fly the DC-3. The time it takes to feed 16 passengers at an averge airspeed of 150 knots or less isn't a factor anyway. I'm going to experiment more with the load maps for the 737-800 add-on and see what I come up with. I know now that it is wrong, I just don't know how to correct it just yet. For instance after juat now (auto loading) 44 pasengers I notice the Pilot and Co-Pilot each weigth 1240 pounds. At this time I'm totally confused, which isn't a state that I'm at all unfamiliar with. In the mean time, Dutch has addressed this in the new version to be released; however those of us who are having problems with service times in the present version may still have problems in the new version. I'm now convinced it has something to do with the load mapping CFG. files. I'll let all know what I find out after experimenting farther. The bottom line is that the problem is not FSCaptain. Perhaps someone else can shed some light in the subject, as well. Fred |
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