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Post by peter on Nov 29, 2015 11:26:18 GMT -5
Hi Cdufault1120,
I've sent you an email with an instruction how to fix this.
Cheers, Peter
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Post by Travis on Nov 29, 2015 14:05:16 GMT -5
Cdufault1120,
Please keep us updated! The whole "B73D" issue is entirely my fault. I revalued my default 737's atc_model to be "B73D" to designate it as the "default 737" and not a complex one.
About the center tank not loading, the practice for such aircraft (with a center and wing tanks) is to load the wing tanks first and then to load the center tank. So it's clearly possible to have flights with no fuel in the center tank. However a max-range flight would need to have fuel in all tanks, so there's that.
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Post by bbrazeel on Nov 29, 2015 20:00:19 GMT -5
Hey Travis, I just did a fresh install of 1.7.0.1 then run the fixpack for 1.7.02 public beta. Right out of the box got the invalid cng b738. Was in my iFly 738 so I just copied the ifly738 config from the overrides directory into aircraft directory. Don't know if this is correct procedure but it fixed my problem and got me flying. Just fyi
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Post by peter on Nov 30, 2015 5:35:26 GMT -5
Hi Bbrazeel,
I verified this problem on my own FSX installation and was able to fix it with the following steps:
1) Open the Administrator and go to "Load Maps" 2) Click on "Import", select B737_800, and click OK 3) Click on "Apply" in the bottom right corner.
Cheers, Peter
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Post by Travis on Nov 30, 2015 15:06:01 GMT -5
Brent,
Shoot us the FCDU (or Admin) logs of this occurrence and we'll check to see.
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Post by cdufault1120 on Dec 4, 2015 17:35:24 GMT -5
I'm still at a loss on how to fill my fuel tanks. Right, Left & Center. After loading the FCDU and accepting the flight, it automatically minimizes my fuel. Also, the original error cfg error message is back.
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Post by cdufault1120 on Dec 5, 2015 2:59:48 GMT -5
Ah... I think I'm starting to get it. I noticed that when I used the Administrator, and went to FLIGHT DISPATCH then under OPTIONAL I put my home airport of KPVD. Then AIRCRAFT TYPE B738, then LIST FLIGHTS. I discovered this is where it all changes. Example: KPVD to KTPA The payload is 25500 lb and the fuel is 19800 lb.. Now, on the bottom section is the flight plan to commit to. The fuel is changed from 19,800 lb. as indicated on the flight list to 18100 lbs. as indicated on the bottom flight plan / commit section. Adding fuel in the commit section takes away from the number of passengers that should properly board. A Southwest Airlines 738 should be able to load up to 175 people, cargo and hold about 26000 lbs of fuel. So, all loaded should be around 155,000 lbs. for take off. How can I reconfigure all this to work properly?
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Post by cdufault1120 on Dec 5, 2015 4:48:30 GMT -5
Ok, here it is... From what I can see and tested.. When going under FLIGHT DISPATCH and selecting / committing to certain flights, they all have their own passenger counts, fuel loads, cargo loads etc.. It prioritizes all loads except for fuel. It seems to me the program should make sure the fuel is full as a priority. I went into FSX and FS Captain and reviewed the 738 files, and tried to keep the load numbers the same. ( fuel, passengers, cargo etc.. ) I have also gone into the ADMINISTRATOR as previously directed and pulled up the 738 from there as well, to ensure keep the numbers the same but I must be missing something. Testing the FCDU, I'm still loosing fuel, and I think it is deducting the fuel because of the Take off weight? ( overall weight? ) Suggestions?
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Post by peter on Dec 5, 2015 10:04:48 GMT -5
Hi Cdufault1120,
from what I have seen, your B738 configuration files are in pretty good shape. Of course there are differences between different carriers in the number of passengers and cargo, they can carry. You could adapt this in the load map for your 738, but the numbers in the files you are using are fine if you don't want to be more specific.
That should not happen on this flight. Airplanes typically have a maximum total weight that does not permit to have both fuel and payload simultaneously at their respective maximum values. So if you are on a long trip and need a lot of fuel, this will limit the amount of payload you can carry and FSCaptain takes this into account. However, for a 738 on this trip, you are far from the maximum takeoff weight.
I have had another look at your configuration files and I could imagine the following. In FSCaptain\Aircraft\ you have two files for 738, namely B737-800.cfg for type B737-800, and B738.cfg for type B738. I noticed that in the first file MaximumTakeoffWeight and MaximumPayload are not set. Hence, if you would plan your flight in the Dispatcher for type 737-800, FSCaptain would make some guesses for these values, and they might be too low. You could try to rename this file to "B737-800.cfg.disabled" and see if that helps. There might be some other files in the Overrides folder that may have to be disabled as well.
Let us know if this helps. Cheers, Peter
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Post by DirkDP on Dec 6, 2015 8:49:42 GMT -5
Maybe something's not configured correctly in the detailed loadmap?
DDP.
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Post by Travis on Dec 7, 2015 13:14:40 GMT -5
I think Peter is very close to the solution here - it's likely the "Type" or "Override" configuration file being used lacks all elements of data, and FSCaptain has to assume some figures. Adding fuel in the commit section takes away from the number of passengers that should properly board. Currently the value in the Fuel textbox on the Administrator is ignored in payload and fuel computation. It will be enabled soon enough (maybe not in Beta 2, but soon thereafter). from what I have seen, your B738 configuration files are in pretty good shape. Of course there are differences between different carriers in the number of passengers and cargo, they can carry. You could adapt this in the load map for your 738, but the numbers in the files you are using are fine if you don't want to be more specific. If you're talking about weights and limits, that would be placed in a Registration Specific Configuration Override file. So for example if a carrier allowed a greater MTOW for their 737-800 (or perhaps required a minimum fuel level taken from the total fuel level) then you could go to the Administrator and create a new Override file based on the normal Override file that would be used specifically for a single tail number. (If you had more than one livery for that carrier, you would simply make a new Registration Specific Configuration Override file for each aircraft. Etc.)
(If you're talking pax numbers & station layout, then you'd need Registration Specific loadmap files.)
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