Acme Flt 1418

[Lane]

Went back to saved flight Last night Saab 340 parked at KJBR Jonesboro,
Ark. I wanted to return to KIND but saw on National weather map nasty
weather moving northeast through Tenn, KY. Saw weather ok north
So I set up a leg to St Louis and plan second Leg over to INDY.
Using real weather FSMetar. Set up flight 1418. to KSTL Loaded 32 PX
and cargo and took off north to alt FL12.5 in my Saab 340.
Reach Cruise Alt and FSC Beta 6 all key functions working fine. Trav is my FO. Set up service. and my GPS is working fine with flight plan.
Made my Approach to St Louis airport Twr clear me to Land 29 and Large new runway I have a Mod KSTL Airport all went fine till I went to far east to make my turn north to 29 on my attempt to Land I stalled and crashed near runway. After the crash. FS9 did not reset it Crashed to and send a error report to MS. After I got FS9 back up FSC did not known what happen? Went to FSC Admin flight Log and got Log entry details
Flt 1418 KJBR to KSTL ALT KSPI Status "Active" Flight Awaiting Pilot?
Then below this info. This flight has not started? No Preflight Info was Found?
So on a hunch I went back to the saved flight with my Saab 340 setting at
KJBR turned on FCOM and there was flight 1418 and was able to close the flight with reason Pilot error..
I think I am about ready to go back to props Dutch's DC3C.
I think I just need to fly the Saab-340 more with out FSC and see if I can learn to fly it better. One off the biggest problem I have is after TO and Lift
off is engage Auto-Pilot holding Heading and Alt hold.
So how was your flights.
Lane

[Dutch Owen]

Lane,

As so many propliner pilots could testity during the 50s and 60s, it's hard to transition to turbos. They are different.

I avoided jets for years because I couldn't handle them. They are fast, fly nose-up (especially on final,) their engines spool up slowly, and they require a careful stabilized approach or you're in trouble. A lot of the "get out of jail" cards you have in a propliner aren't there in jets.

With the DC-3, if I could see the runway I could maneuver to land on it from about any angle. Not so with a jet. You've got to approach "by the book" and be stabilized at 5 miles out.

If low on final in a propliner you just add instant power and stop the sink. Jets don't have that instant power -- it takes a few seconds for the engines to spool up. You have to stay well ahead of the airplane. Too many pilots learned this the hard way in the early jets -- or would have if they had survived. "Red VASIs...better add some power...more power...why am I still sinking?...BOOM!"

With practice though it'll become second nature. I like the 727 for many reasons but one of the best is that it has the slowest approach speed of any big airliner. It was designed to land on the smaller airports.

Hang in there. I had to practice many, many touch-and-gos before I trusted myself to carry PAX in a jet.

Dutch

[Lane]

Thanks Dutch,
How true what you wrote about jets and Prop planes. I am finding that out the hard way Last night I ran the same flight from KJBR were I parked had saved the flight. And I got to ST Louis Area and flew north over the Miss River
turned west to the long Rwy 29 and landed fine. I did not have FSC Loaded.
If you have that new KSTL Mod Airport with the new Rwy 29 and land there its a Long way to taxi back to parking. I have Cal Classics AI Props Planes
installed. All kinds of props planes Landing and taxi all over the place took me
about 10 to 15 Min's to taxi to Parking.

I have a Question What normal should FSC Do when you crash??
Should it close out the Flight? and have the XXX at the end of the report?
You can see the trouble I was in Last night when I crashed and FS9 Crashed.
at the same time It just keep saying all kinds of crazy things.
Till I went back to were I started the flight and I was able to cancel it there?
Thanks for your help and info.
Lane

[davidk]

It still feels a bit hairy when I reach minimums in a jet, switch off the autopilot and then try to complete a smooth descent and flare before feeling I'm going to to run out of runway...

For any fans of turobprops dating back to the sixties, the freeware Hawker Siddeley 748 model by Rick Piper is my first choice.

David

[Lane]

Thanks David,
For that info will check it out. I have a bunch of Props back in sixties and have CalClassics Sixties AI Prop
traffic Loaded.
Regards
Lane