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Post by charliealfatango on May 29, 2022 19:28:01 GMT -5
My FSX was giving my FPS of 40 easily. After I upgraded to 1.8.3 now the FPS is down to 0.6. Any suggestions?
I am reverting back to my old version.
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Post by Travis on May 30, 2022 22:19:33 GMT -5
I'd need more information to make a recommendation.... There's been no other SC-32 reports of such, which leaves me wondering what it could be.
There are several FS9 reports of a low FPS before logging in, which I have on my agenda to research. So as my first question for you, does this FPS drop manifest itself before logging in, after logging in, or in both aspects? Next, assuming you were using the gauges, I would ask if you tried the EXE to see if the FPS drop happens there. Contra, if you were using the EXE, then I'd ask what's your experience with using a 1.8.3 gauge. Either way, I'd like to see your FCDU and FSCaptain logs for both 1.8.2 and 1.8.3 experiences. Finally, did you attempt to install the latest Beta Refresh for 1.8.3 - the Service Pack? Best,
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Post by charliealfatango on May 31, 2022 21:20:43 GMT -5
Travis,
I will save my 1.8.2 version and reinstall 1.8.3 and let you know.
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Post by Travis on May 31, 2022 21:54:29 GMT -5
Cool beans.
Give everything a good once over as I mentioned. Try the gauge and try the EXE... from both just the Fixpack and from the Fixpack plus SP Beta 1.
I'm still not at full speed from this bug I picked up, so I'll take a while to analyze all of those logs.
Best,
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Post by charliealfatango on May 31, 2022 22:18:01 GMT -5
Hi, I did a screen record and posted it here: youtu.be/KXnZ8a8h6ik. The FPS drops as soon as i unpause the simulation. If I remove the FCDU from the aircraft then the FPS is back up to normal.
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Post by charliealfatango on Jun 1, 2022 21:31:37 GMT -5
OK, it is definately due to FCDU installed in the aircraft. When I remove it from the aircraft and just use the FCDU from the desktop the FPS does not drop down to 0.5. Also, just saw a new error when ending the flight: Debug Assertion Failed. Ignored it and the flight ended with no issues.
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Post by Travis on Jun 3, 2022 18:14:01 GMT -5
Charlie, I've watched your video several times, and I've read your posts and the logs you sent. First up... I can simply state that the only way that FSCaptain could affect the FPS in a simulator is via the DLL or the Gauge. Both of them operate within the simulator and could cause a simulator slowdown or even a simulator CTD. ----- As for your issue.... My "short" take is - I have no idea why this is happening... I only have guesses. My "longer" take is this.... You write that the FSP dropoff does not happen with the EXE. That tells me that the DLL is not responsible - because the DLL works with both the EXE and the Gauge. In your video, when the Gauge is open the FPS starts to drop off. When you close the Gauge, the FPS resumes double-digits (I can't tell from the video what the FPS is at any moment... but I can see single-digit versus double-digit.) ----- Your Gauge appears in an undocked panel window. I never use an undocked Gauge, but I experimented in my current P3D4 and undocking my Gauge window had no effect on the FPS. I have no idea if that matters, so I would ask you to please try a 1.8.3 Gauge in a docked state to see if it matters to you. Next, it seemed that your FCDU Gauge window was active at the start of the video. I don't know of anything that could persist a panel window's status from one flight session to another flight session, so I would have to ask if you could email me all of your simulator add-ons. ----- But the biggest thing that I took away from your video is that while you opened the FCDU, you never "powered up" the FCDU. Your FCDU did nothing more than "initialize" and wait to receive commands while the FPS dropped. Because of that, I believe that it is not a coding issue here.Your FSX startup is like my FSX startup... the aircraft "surges" for a few moments and then friction draws it to a halt. (When I ran FSX, I would wait at startup and immediately make the keypress to set Parking Brakes when I was able to do so to prevent a long surge.) Still... at this point, the FCDU gauge is only looking for a mouse click, while it is repeatedly telling FSX to "draw me". And at this point, the only thing to draw is the image for the FCDU... there's no display text to render because nothing is happening. I could suggest that you try to change the size of the FCDU Gauge when it's visible... make it a few pixels wider and / or taller to see if that affects the FPS. ----- The next observation / question that I have is... in your video, the FCDU Gauge appeared with an active message. Since you hadn't "powered up" the FCDU... or much less have "logged in"... what is the meaning of that message? I want to wonder if there may be something with your simulator which has retained a "panel history" and has reimposed that history on new panels, etc.?? ----- Finally, have you tried the Service Pack (Beta 1) Refresh Build available here in the forum to see if the FPS dropoff persists? I hope to post Beta 2 on my Saturday or Sunday, so you might prefer to wait for that Build.
Either way, please send me your FCDU and FSCaptain logs from any SP Beta attempts.... Best,
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Post by charliealfatango on Jun 3, 2022 22:07:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the detailed answer. I have taken the following actions: 1 - Removed 1.8.3 completely 2 - Reinstal 1.8.3 full version + Alpha pack 1.8.3.1 3 - Activated with the license info. 4 - Used FCDU installer to add FCU to 737-800 5 - Started FSX (Steam) 6 - Selected 737-800 and clicked Fly now 7 - Simulation opens in Pause mode 8 - When I remove it the plan surges and I set the parking brakes 9 - Check FPS - Above 30 FPS 10 - Hit Ctrl+ Shift 6 to display the embedeed FCDU 11 - FPS drops to 2, continues to drop until it reaches 0.6. I have not clicked the white button to turn the FCDU On. 12 - Hit P to pause simulation and FPS goes back above 30.
emailed logs and panel.cfg
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Post by Travis on Jun 4, 2022 12:28:51 GMT -5
The realm of 'possible reasons' continues to shrink. I am nearly at the point of grasping at straws.
I have what would sound to be a silly question, but there is a reason for it.
What happens when you turn on the FCDU (gauge) and log in?
For another question, does the FCDU message light illuminate as I saw in your video? That in itself is strange.
I'll reply to your email in a few hours with a suggested panel.cfg edit and an edit to your profile.cfg.
Best,
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Post by charliealfatango on Jun 4, 2022 17:07:15 GMT -5
The moment I click to make the FCDU visible the FPS start to decrease and that is even before the login. Once I login it is very slow but there are no errors, just glacially slow, everything works but you have to wait. Now as soon as press the Pause button the FPS comes back up to 40+ even with the FCDU visible.
I noticed that message light staying lit. That is fine now after i uninstalled and reinstalled.
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Post by Travis on Jun 6, 2022 17:05:34 GMT -5
Your simulator has made this a very difficult issue to solve. I have one or two other ideas but I would need to resurrect my old FSX PC in order to test them.
The fact that it's only affecting you and that you don't have conflicting add-ons makes this more difficult to engage with.
I must put your issue on a side-burner for now as I need to prepare to release current builds. This will be Job One once the Service Pack has been released. I'm guessing to have that PC running in early-July. Best,
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Post by charliealfatango on Jun 6, 2022 20:31:11 GMT -5
Not an issue. Take your time.
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Post by Travis on Jun 7, 2022 20:30:46 GMT -5
Thank you most kindly for your patience!
Best regards,
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Post by charliealfatango on Jun 9, 2022 11:50:10 GMT -5
Just wanted to update this issue: I swapped out the GTX 250 and installed a new GTX 1050. Still getting 0.5 FPS when the inflight FCDU is activated. Works fine if I uninstall and use the desktop FCDU. I have one additional issue I am seeing after I installed the 1050. I get an error when starting: Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party add-on: Name: FSCAI Version 0.8.22 File: FSCaptain\bin\FSCAI.dll
I just click "no" and FSX works.
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Post by Travis on Jun 14, 2022 12:35:04 GMT -5
I have one additional issue I am seeing after I installed the 1050. I get an error when starting: Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party add-on: Name: FSCAI Version 0.8.22 File: FSCaptain\bin\FSCAI.dll I just click "no" and FSX works. That's an FSX-era security issue. Check the last Appendix in the User Guide and (if you're running 1.8.3) look in the \bin\ folder for "RegFixer_FSCAI.exe". Run that, and key "Y" whenever it asks. Best,
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